Philip Zimbardo defined mind control as "the process by which individual or collective freedom of choice and action is compromised by agents or agencies that modify or distort perception, motivation, affect, cognition or behavioral outcomes,"[39] and he suggested that any human being is susceptible to such manipulation.[40]
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It seems like everyone has their own explanation of what a "christian" is. And, every single one of you explain something completely different than the last person. You all use Christianity as an excuse to act the way you do. It's as if it's OKAY to cheat on your wife, molest kids, kill, abuse, etc because GOD IS ON YOUR SIDE and it's actually SATAN controlling your mind. GOD will forgive you because blah blah blah. I feel so sorry for most of you because you are so confused and have no clue how to control your own emotions and your own life. Maybe if you had faith in YOURSELVES instead of mythological creatures, you would be able to control your life and your actions. Don't blame the "devil" because the pastor cheated on his wife!!! HE CHOSE TO CHEAT!!! Just like any one of you.. if you cheated on your significant other, it would be YOUR fault! You can control your temptations and your behavior. NOW, if you CANNOT control your own body, then GO TO A DOCTOR/PSYCHIATRIST!!! Talking to God is usually you talking to your subconscious and your subconscious telling you not to do the wrong thing. Unfortunately, most people don't listen to their subconscious thoughts and end up doing idiotic things... like cheating on their wife. Get help people.. PLEASE..
Dear Enough Already,I am so sorry that Christians (all of whom you seem to lump together despite the many different viewpoints expressed) have let you down so dreadfully. There is definitely no simple definition of what it means to be a Christian, so our perspectives will definitely vary a bit. It's just not possible to easily explain such a vast concept. It's sort of like explaining a great, deep and meaningful relationship to someone else--words don't quite do it. It's something meant to be lived.However, Christianity is NEVER an excuse to act any way we fell like. No Christian in their right mind will ever make excuses for the likes of the damnable acts that you are listing. In fact, the reason we are even having this thread is because a Christian leader fully and unflinchingly took personal responsibility for his transgressions (the details of which are none of our business) and paid a pretty steep price for doing so. If it were OKAY (to quote you) to do these things, it would be business as usual and none of us would be any the wiser.Sorry if any of us gave you the impression that Satan has the power to control our minds. He does not! If this were a valid defense, then, once again, we would not be having this discussion thread. Christianity clearly asserts, and this pastor's example testifies, that we are responsible for our actions and that we will bear sometimes incredibly heavy consequences for them. Hence this pastor's taking full responsibility for his actions (maybe "cheating", maybe not--let's don't put words in the man's mouth now).I am duly impressed that you seem to be able to control your emotions and your own life. Either you are a much better person than anyone I've ever met, or perhaps you are living by a set of standards that are a bit more on the accommodating side. Alas, I fall short of the only standard that really matters. And I do need that pesky forgiveness that you mentioned. But if we gave the impression that it doesn't really matter what we do, then we definitely did you a grave disservice. If there were no responsibility for our actions, the concept of forgiveness itself would become instantly obsolete and nonsensical.If talking to our subconscious were the entire answer, the world would definitely be a better place. I agree with you that our subconscious, conscience or whatever we want to call that "little voice" can definitely be a veritable source of great insights and best of intentions. Unfortunately, once we know better, there's always cowardice, selfishness, indifference, bad predispositions, forgetfulness, etc, that will be at the ready to ruin the day--ours and that of others. Unfortunately, it appears that self cannot overcome self. Sometimes I just can't get over myself! It's at such times that it is mighty handy to be able to call on something greater than myself to come to my aid. I will agree, it is a bit of a mystery, but it works! I have seen the lives restored of people (myself included) who seemed to be beyond hope until they called on God for help. Those folks had a well-developed unconscious. They knew they were off track. But if that were all it took, we would all be nicer, happier and ten lb lighter.Anyway, few are the great communicators of deep spiritual truth (such as Paul S, the reason we are gathered here, before I completely forget). So I will be so bold as to apologize on behalf of all of us Christians who are not expressing ourselves too clearly. And if my attempts at explanation made it even worse, well, my bad I guess. Keep an open mind. Try not to lump us all together. Hopefully, someone else will come along and do a better job. Until then, Jesus loves you and we're trying--no joke!
Pastor Paul is a mighty man of God. Look at most of the Biblical characters and what they went through, but how God changed them, gave them a voice to speak and God mightly used them even greater. I am a member of ALCF and I will say I was stunned, shocked and speechless when I heard his letter that Pastor Wayne read to us. I remember on 6/14/09 Pastor Paul's sermon, " Enjoying the Favor of God", F stood for Fruitfullness - Be true to who God called me to be. Born an original, don't die a copy. Don't take on someone elses calling. Pray for Pastor Paul, he is being attacked. Every new level is a new devil. I truly admire Pastor Paul for resigning and wanting to restore his marriage to Sister Meridith and work on this. So many pastors sin and never admit it and still preach every Sunday from the pulpits. He is a man of integrity and even though he has sinned, as we all do. He will be back, he will rise above this and have a greater more powerful ministry. Very humble man and now he will be able to speak to those areas that most pastors truly don't touch. He will get back up, the enemy isn't going to win this one. God isn't done fulfilling the prophesy, that he would reach 1000's of unchurched for the Lord, that he would pastor in northern ca, and he would have a ministry called Enduring Truth. He will be back. He taught us to get back up, stay in the word of God, listen to God and let Him lead and guide us. God forgives and you will hear from this mighty man of God again. Allow him to get his healing, restore himself and marriage and then later will be his ministry. God isn't done yet. We pray for Pastor Paul and his wife daily and can't wait to see what God is going to do with these two and the platform that is going to be raised for them. God works all thing out for His good.We all need to lift our pastors up in prayer, pray for their protection against what is unspeakable and warrior angels to emcamp them. Pray for their eyes and what they see, their minds since this is where the enemy takes a foothold. Anyone can fall into temptation, anyone.God is in control and has allowed this for His greater plan and purpose.
I have attended ALCF for over 10 years and I am devastated to hear of Pastor Paul's troubles. My own life has been touched this year by infidelity, so this 'moral failure' of my spiritual leader has really got my head spinning. I do know that Paul and Meredith Sheppard are truly blessed by God and have been engaged in doing God's work. As for the Pastor's failures...we have only what he put in a letter to comfort us and for me...it's not enough. What happened, with whom and how long did it go on? How long did you stand in our faces and lie??? I want answers...now! Pastor Paul...please be the man you've professed to be all these years, and come address your congregation!I'm praying for healing in their family, in our church family, heck, even my OWN family. As a reminder to all those ready willing and able to throw stones at a man while he's down...God is good, even when we aren't, and that doesn't change. Hallelujah!
When I heard the news yesterday I felt like someone had punched me in the gut. I couldn't figure out why his program wasn't on at it's usual time, and then the announcer gave the sombering news. What a terrible start to 2010! I have listened to Pastor Paul on WFIL in Philly for probably over 5 years. I met him at an event at his Dad's church and he and his wife were so gracious and kind. There are almost no words to describe the shock and upset at this. It's like getting served a crap sandwich in a dirty ashtray. I still love him and his preaching, but cannot wrap my head around the fact that someone so smart, so well versed in God's word could fall to disgrace like this!! But, if Peter, one of Jesus's closest friends could deny Him 3 times, I guess anything is possible. How ironic that PP's teachings on marriage helped bring healing to my marriage that was on the verge of divorce- he and Merdith have probably helped thousands of marriages! I pray whatever moral transgression he had was only a one time deal or at least somewhat brief. If it turned out to be some long term affair, and he was truly repentant we know God is faithful to forgive, but I don't know how I could ever have any respect for him again! This just plays into the stereotype of Christians being hypocrites, so sad that it hurts the kingdom. I am sure that thought alone is probably tearing him apart. No matter what, if you have ever listened to PP, you know he loves God! I will continue to pray for him, Meredith, Alicia and Aaron. This is a stark reminder for all of us to keep our church leaders in our prayers, they are probably spiritually attacked and tempted in ways many of us will never experience. Not to mention they will be judged by God more strictly. James 3:1 2ff7e9595c
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